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    Assallamu Allaikkum, it is 4 to 5 years since I had visited this site. I recently saw a hadith. I am confused. I am posting it here. I need clarification.

    This is a Sahih hadith from Sahih Bukhari, Muhammad forbade Ali from remarrying while married to his daughter Fatima, because she's "part of his body and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me."


    Volume 7, Book 62, Number 157:
    Narrated Al-Miswar bin Makhrama:

    I heard Allah's Apostle who was on the pulpit, saying, "Banu Hisham bin Al-Mughira have requested me to allow them to marry their daughter to Ali bin Abu Talib, but I don't give permission, and will not give permission unless 'Ali bin Abi Talib divorces my daughter in order to marry their daughter, because Fatima is a part of my body, and I hate what she hates to see, and what hurts her, hurts me."

    If he felt polygamy was painful to women ie it would hurt his daughter Fatima, why allow it for other women?

    Assallamu Allaikkum, I am surprised to see this Hadith. I can't understand how Prophet (SAW) could have said so. I see the trail below and see justification that Ali (RA) had all right to take a second wife and she was a good Muslimah, her father might have been a kafir / enemy of Allah. The trail says, Fathima (RA) would not have discriminated her Muslim sister. Then where is the question of Jealousy or hurt on part, of Fathima (RA). Is it like Allah forbid Shahabhas not to marry Prophet's wives after Prophet's days, as they are equivalent to our Mothers, Prophet also denied his daughter sharing with other ladies.

    Can we take that if I want to marry a second wife and if my wife's brother feels that my wife will be hurt by my 2nd marriage, will he have a right to stop my marriage.

    I have been troubled by this act and in confused state of mind for the past 5 years. Can someone shed light on this.

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    Walaikum Assalaam,

    Ali (RA) wanted to marry Abu Jahl's daughter. The Prophet(SAW) forbid him from marrying the daughter of the man who was an enemy to Islam.

    Excerpt taken from Islam Q&A

    Can it be understood from the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) got angry on behalf of Faatimah that she was infallible?

    One of the Raafidis presented me with a specious argument, which is the view that Faatimah (may Allaah be pleased with her) was infallible, based on the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him): “Faatimah is a part of me and whoever angers her angers me.” He said that the anger of Faatimah (may Allaah be pleased with her) is part of the anger of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and the anger of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) is part of the anger of Allaah, hence Faatimah could not get angry for any idle reason, i.e., she was infallible. How can we answer this specious argument?.

    Praise be to Allaah. The Raafidis are a people who like to argue and stir up specious arguments which they exaggerate and present them as facts to the common folk in order to prove their point. But the one whom Allaah has blessed with understanding of His religion and the ability to ask scholars, will undoubtedly realize the falseness of their arguments and the insignificance of their evidence. That includes the specious argument mentioned by the questioner. This argument may be answered in several ways:

    1 – The Raafidis quote this hadeeth as evidence, as is mentioned by the questioner, to reach the conclusion that Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) made Faatimah angry when he did not give her what she asked for of the inheritance of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). If that is what happened, and Abu Bakr made Faatimah angry, then he also made the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) angry, and thus made Allaah angry too! This is a sign of their ignorance and folly, for the hadeeth was originally narrated concerning ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him). Al-Bukhaari and Muslim narrated that al-Miswar ibn Makhramah said: ‘Ali proposed to the daughter of Abu Jahl. When Faatimah heard of that she came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said to him: Your people are saying that you do not get angry for the sake of your daughters, and ‘Ali is going to marry the daughter of Abu Jahl. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood up and I heard him when he recited the shahaadah, then he said: “I gave a daughter of mine in marriage to Abu’l-‘Aas ibn al-Rabee’, and when he spoke he told me the truth. Faatimah bint Muhammad is a part of me, and I do not like for her to be hurt. By Allaah, the daughter of the Messenger of Allaah and the daughter of the enemy of Allaah will not be joined together as wives of one man.” So ‘Ali abandoned that proposal. According to a version narrated by al-Bukhaari: “Faatimah is part of me and whoever angers her angers me.” [al-Bukhaari no. 3523 and 3556; Muslim, no. 2449].
    By examining the report quoted above it will be clear that if blame were to be laid on anyone, it would be laid on ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him), because the reason why this hadeeth was narrated was his wish to propose marriage to the daughter of Abu Jahl, as the result of which Faatimah (may Allaah be pleased with her) became angry. It is established among the scholars of Usool that what counts is the general meaning of the words, not the specific reason for them, but it is also established that the reason for the text must be taken into account first and foremost and the reason cannot be excluded at all. When the Raafidis quote this hadeeth as evidence for criticizing Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him), because of their ignorance and trickery, they conceal the fact that criticism – if there is any criticism – would be directed at ‘Ali first of all.


    Secondly: The anger mentioned in the hadeeth occurred for a specific reason which is mentioned above. This indicates that the anger arose not because Faatimah was infallible or whatever claims the Raafidis make, but because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was keen to protect his daughter’s feelings, and what upset her also upset him (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). This is indicated by what is mentioned in the report of Muslim: “Faatimah is a part of me and what hurts her hurts me.” This was offence caused to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and it has nothing to do with the matter of infallibility as those Raafidis claim.

    Thirdly: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said in other saheeh ahaadeeth: “Whoever obeys me had obeyed Allaah and whoever disobeys me has disobeyed Allaah. Whoever obeys my commander has obeyed me and whoever disobeys my commander has disobeyed me.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 6718; Muslim, no. 1835. According to consensus – even among the Raafidis – this does not mean that the commander is infallible; rather some of the commanders sent by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made mistakes in some matters which it is known went against the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). An example of that is the proven report in which ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent out an expedition and he appointed in charge of them a man from among the Ansaar and told them to obey him. He got angry and said: Didn’t the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) tell you to obey me? They said: Yes. He said: Then gather firewood for me. So they gathered it for him and he said: Light a fire. So they lit a fire. He said: Enter it. So they thought of entering it, but some of them held others back and said: We have fled to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to escape the fire. They stayed until the fire burned out and his anger died down. News of that reached the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he said: “If you had entered it you would never have come out of it until the Day of Resurrection. Obedience is only with regard to that which is right and proper.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, no. 4085; Muslim, no. 1840. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) restricted this obedience only to that which is right and proper. So if the anger of Faatimah was part of the anger of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then according to consensus it is limited only to that which is right and proper, and if the anger of Faatimah was for reasons that were not in accordance with the law of Allaah, then what is right and proper is to implement the law of Allaah, even if it angered Faatimah. Hence the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “If Faatimah the daughter of Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand.” And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “O Faatimah bint Muhammad, save yourselves, for I cannot avail you anything before Allaah, ask for whatever you want of my wealth.” This implies that she was not infallible. See Manhaaj al-Sunnah al-Nabawiyyah, 4/250. http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/43458...%20hurts%20him

    So I do not believe that he could not take another wife, but this women in particular because of who her father was.
    Insha Allah this helps answer your question
    "The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger." (Sahih Al Bukhari Vol 8. No.135)

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    Assallamu Allaikkum. Thanks for the prompt reply. I understand the content but still confused. Insha Allah, I will ponder over this. I take this act to refuse the son-in law / Br-in-law to take another wife is applicable only to Prophet's (SAW) daughters.

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    I think it is best that you talk to a knowledgeable scholar concerning this matter, if it has you this perplexed. Fatimah was about 19 when she married Ali so that would have made Prophet Muhammad somewhere around 55(may Allah forgive me if I'm wrong), I do not know how long after that Ali tried to marry again, but the Prophet (SAW) passed away when he was 63 that meant she was married for about 8 years when her father passed and 6 months after that she passed away, so she was not married for a very long time before her death.

    I have not found anything else in regards to Ali(ra) wanting to take another wife other than the one posted above, and it was only because her father was an enemy to Islam that the Prophet (saw) was against the marriage. Maybe this is what your having difficulty understanding. Would he have allowed the marriage if her father was someone else? That is Allahu Alim

    I think it is very important not to allow ourselves to get caught up in the Shaytan's trickery. Allah has made it very clear in the Quran in regards to a man having more than one wife. Allah Most High says:

    “If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two, three, or four, but if you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one…(Surah al-Nisa, 3).
    "The strong is not the one who overcomes the people by strength, but the strong is the one who controls himself while in anger." (Sahih Al Bukhari Vol 8. No.135)

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    Assalam Alikum, MashaAllah very nice reply Sis Nur, i really appreciate your nice and explanatory reply.


 

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